Cory's having nice attacks of maturity right there. Very refreshing.

Oh my, how I *love+ these little Angel comments in the middle of a serious discussion...

Wha?! I never heard that about Liz. I highly doubt I believe she slept with Sean. I also never saw that implied. Of course blah on Shiri for teasing us and saying she lost her virginity in the finale. Yeah right? How come I didn't get to see it?

I did hear about the Kyle storyline- and it's too bad they didn't follow through with that. I wouldn't of hated it as much as I did if they would of fixed some of the crap.

Anyone seen Boston Public? Is JK messing that show up too?

I read on a site (antarians.com) that a two-hour season finale was filmed for season 2 but the WB only gave it the hour time slot.

It also said they filmed a two-hour season three finale where Max and Liz 'cement' their relationship (I would have loved to see that bit!) after he proposes but UPN only gave it an hour ! It would have been a good way to end the series with a two hour finale but damn UPN!

Yup a lot of TV stations just suck!

I agree with all of you!

I want to rant too.

Who in the world are these people who didn't watch Season 1? Maybe I understand why they wouldn't want to watch the other seasons but Season 1?
Like HELLO?! Don't you know a one-of-a-kind show when you see one?

You know.. I have no idea on that one. I would love to know too. I bet it gets canceled this year.

And as much as I personally loved Season one to pieces and wouldn't want it any other way-- what I *think* happened is this. They started it off really strong. Strong sexual vibes-- that alot of these other "hit" TV shows don't have. So it becomes a "mature- mature audience" thus limiting a broader (shall I say younger?) audience and/or even an (older audience for that matter) as many would rather watch storyline type shows than *just a bunch of kids making out*

Of course I have no complaints on the first season- and I think they totally screwed themselves on season two trying to change the show *too much* and leaving all sorts of crazy storylines out there to never be solved. *bad writing* and Season three was just obvious. Everyone hated Max by that point and No one wanted to watch an hour of Isabore on the screen. Hence, a canceled show.

The whole thing with Liz suddenly going from good girl to bad girl, with no explanation other than her attraction to Max, turned me off. I mean, she's suddenly willing to do the illegal with no regrets? You don't just *suddenly* make that change! They never explained it, except for the thing about helping Max to find his son, but stil...you don't make that much of a personality change overnight. And I found her annoying that she'd risk ruining her whole like for Max. Yeah, love is grand, but you need to draw the line somewhere, and Liz was willing to sit in prision for years. That seems to fall into the realm of 'Girl, you need a life' and 'Unhealthy dependance'. And Max never seemed to 'get it'. He was all whiny and moody and self-centered about his quest, and only gave passing glance to anyone else. Michael and Maria were better. At least they admitted they were dysfunctional. And I'm going to go againt the grain here (what else is new? ) and say I really liked Isabel and Jesse . They seemed the most real and well-adjusted of the three couples. Maybe she did get too much screen time, but I liked them most of all. Yeah, they stared in a cloud of lust, but I think the way it played out wasn't half bad. But that's just me. I am glad Alex didn't hook up with Isabel, because she would have totally taken him for granted and used him, and he'd have let her walk all over him.

I agree that Liz let him off the hook way too easily but what can I say, I'm a hopeless Dreamer.
Heard that Thanie St John originally wanted Tess as Michael's sister, NOT Max's wife. That would have been better I think but JK had to kick her out and put in his own horrible plotlines.