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 Posted: 03/28/03 05:40
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 Posted: 03/28/03 14:29
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The way they end things between D/J in the finale is pretty much how I always invisioned it. Totally over in the romantic sense. BFF 4-evah. It's actually a very nice scene. But you already knew that, didn't you?

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LMAO. No. Pacey is whining about how they have "scripted parts" in this drama and Joey basically tells him that's bullsh*t. At that moment she's decided to wash her hands of the whole thing and go to Paris. Pacey says that Joey is supposed to be in there with Dawson and not supposed to be out there with him and all that kerr-ap that happened a billion and five springs ago. Pacey is not talking about wanting to be with her, he's talking about how things are "supposed" to be. And that's when Joey tells him that she may not be in his life the "scripted" way but she's in his life in her own way at that time. She's in his life on HER terms. She then goes on to talk about how they are ghosts of their former selves and like with all ghosts they need to make peace so they can move on.

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They're both angry and upset. But Pacey is completely miserable about everything and somewhat drunk. He heads for Dawson's dock and Joey, shell shocked after that whole display, looks over and walks to him. I can't imagine she would've just gone in and talked to Dawson while Pacey is still there contemplating jumping into the creek or something. I mean, just listen to him. The first thing he does is lash out at her over her relationship with Dawson, which is totally uncalled for and a cheap shot. But again, this goes with the anecdote and he is drunk so whatever.

How Roxy Will Spoil The BIG Movie Finale.

Simply put. I'm not. I may give a tidbit here or there but don't look to me for anything major. I have very good reason to believe that the more is spoiled, the more likely things are to change. Plus, I just think this one should stand alone. Granted, I don't talk for other sources, but from my POV, I just don't want to do it.

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My opinion? After reading the rest of the season? Dude, I feel as if my predictions (that I KNOW some of you are privy too. Hee, more like... early spoils, not predictions, but whatevah) are correct. I think we're going to win this war, because we killed them in the battle this year.

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However I do enjoy 622 in a love/hate sorta way. I mainly hate it because everyone's pitching in to help Doggybreath. That really bugs me. Seriously, couldn't we kill him off? Yet, I'll admit it, the P/Jo scene...*sigh*... even the D/P talk at the ending was good. They pretty much admit to still loving the same girl and that leaves an uncertain finale for who Joey will choose. Like I said, it's very "interesting" how the writers decided to clean this one up. It's all so nice for all fans.

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As for Episode 621. Dude. TLD. Done Right. It has the most incredible Pacey and Joey scene EVER. We hear how Pacey and Joey first met when they were five. Actually, it's a very long scene. Simply Put, the fight between D/P is in front of D's house. J is just leaving. P stops her by grabbing her arm, tells her to stay because she should see this. She's going to hear about it anyway. Dawson and Pacey rip into each other hardcore and say things that really needed to be said. Things that we've been saying for the past six years. Joey is horrified. Dawson runs off into his house to be the big fat baby that he is, Pacey goes to the dock. Joey goes after Pacey. Stays with Pacey. Makes Pacey feel a hell of a lot better, and they talk for quite a while. It is in my top five P/J scenes ever, actually. Here are a few snips.

Pacey is sitting alone on the dock, where he's obviously been doing some thinking and sobering up (he's drunk, not sloppy) for a while. After a moment Joey walks down and joins him.

J: You okay, Pace?

A moment, and he wearily replies.

P: You don't have to do this.
J: Do what?
P: Check up on me. I know what you want to do. Go in there, Jo. Help him lick his wounds. You don't have to sit out here watching over the lost cause. What's the point, right?

Joey goes on to tell him that she wants to be there and if she wanted to be with Dawson she would have gone.

We finally see how P/J first met. It was at a butterfly garden. Very, very sweet. KILLED me.

J: If I wanted to go back in that house, Pacey, I would have done it a long time ago. Don't you know me at all by now?

P: I just don't want you sitting out here feeling sorry for me, Jo.

J: I don't feel sorry for you, Pace. I just feel for you. Can't you ever tell the difference?

P: I don't know. I guess I can't. We've had kind of a confusing run of it, haven't we?

J: No matter how much I love you, or how long I stay with you, you're only going to remember the moments when I leave.

P: You're gonna have to forgive me for that, because those are pretty much the toughest moments of in my life.

Another snip:

P: My best friend in the whole world just walked away from me, and he said things that can't ever be taken back. And the saddest part of all that, is that my best friend in the whole world basically hasn't known me for three years. So tell me, how does that make me a man with a support network?

J: You've got one person right here, Pace. But I know that won't ever be enough. Not until you let it.

And that's all I'm giving. Heee. The rest is too.good.

The Season Finale, episode 522, "Joey Potter & Capeside Redemption," couldn't be more perfect if it tried to be.

Seriously. It's probably one of the best episodes written to date. There is NO ONE that can walk away from that episode unhappy. NO ONE. EVERYONE on the internet will love this episode. I was actually pretty teary while reading it. It's great.

Bonus! Only scripted Fab Four Kiss For Finale Goodness is Joey and Pacey! Jo gives him a hug and a kiss on the cheek. Wheeee. It's actually a very nice scene. All the scenes are nice.

Patrick/Harley end up together.
Patrick/Harley/George play mini D/P/J in Dawson's movie. And yes, Dawson does change the characters names to their own. They act out scenes from the the pilot. So. CUTE.

My fave.

Joey twists his [Patrick's] ear or pinches his arm the way she might have done to Pacey when she was fifteen.

J: Can I just have fine minutes alone with him?
Patrick: You don't know how long I've dreamed of hearing you say that.

Dawson looks up at them. It's kind of like seeing Joey and Pacey five years ago.

J: What?
Dawson: Nothing. (shakes off the memory)

And P/D have a scene towards the end. It's great. One of my fave lines.

P: ... I'm not sorry about the time I spent with her, Dawson. And I have a feeling you're not either.

Oh, and Hoydenish is wrong. Bessie and Bodie are not in 622. Gale is though. And bonus! TODD IS BACK!


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 03/28/03 14:31
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Cheese!

Am I the only one here that thinks it's a little creeeeeeepeeeee that people want to ooooh and awwww over a five year old P/J? Ewwwwwwwwww.

It's a conversation. Not a flashback. Thank God.


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 03/28/03 14:37
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Wow! Just...Wow! I'm actually looking forward to these last few episodes we have left!


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 03/28/03 15:57
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Am I the only one here that thinks it's a little creeeeeeepeeeee that people want to ooooh and awwww over a five year old P/J? Ewwwwwwwwww.


OMG. LMAO! :drink :drink :drink
I've been called a lot of things.. but creeepeee is a first! Yay! :dance :party4


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 03/28/03 18:55
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:lol Well, I've always known it! :lol


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 Posted: 04/02/03 11:11
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I just posted this stuff at FF...

621 dialogue:

This is right before the fight between Dawson and Pacey:

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Int. Leery House-Foyer-Night

Dawson and Joey walk down the stairs.

Joey: God, I didn't even realize how late it had gotten

Dawson: You probably never thought when you came over here that we'd spend the whole afternoon talking.

Joey: Call it a nice suprise.

Dawson: Still didn't solve my problem, though.

Joey: What's that?

Dawson: Same one I've always had. Finding someone to play you.

Joey's flattered. They step out onto the porch...
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And this is the end of the P/J dock scene:

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Ext. Leery Dock-Night

Pacey: This isn't your fight, Joey.

Joey: You're right. It's not my fight. Because it was all over a long time ago. Now you just have to make it right.

Pacey: You said it yourself, Jo. I can't get out of my own way. I don't know how to fix this.

Joey: Yes you do. (Beat) That's the thing about ghosts, Pace. They say they don't leave until they're at peace with what they left undone. Don't you want to move on?

A moment, and then Joey crouches behind Pacey and gives him a fierce hug before she walks away, leaving Pacey alone with his thoughts, looking out over the water.
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One more thing...

C.J. is not in the finale.


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 04/02/03 12:14
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Audrey: Wait a second. Lemme get this right. You want me to play the ****ty teacher who robbed Pacey of his delicate flower?

...then later

A: Back to the ****ty Ms Jacobs. Do you think I should try and track her down? Ya know, try and get a handle on her motivations and such? Might help me with my thesping.

Joey: (beat) Yeah, lemme know how that works out for you, Audrey.

...then later right before D's about to begin filming...

Audrey gets excited, raises her hand--

A: Ooooh, I'm gonna play Ms. Jacobs, the woman who seduced a young boy on the verge of manhood.

Dawson: I know who she is, Audrey.

A: I do have some notes, though. (off Joey's look) Later, We can talk about it later.
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It's all for you, Is.

I am guessing Joey doesn't want to talk about Pacey and Miss Jacobs. Maybe, she looks jealous. She sure looks jealous in tonight's previews.


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 Posted: 04/02/03 18:27
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Sugz recapped it.

recap of 623 courtesy
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Basically, "Colby" (Dawson at 16) and "Sam" (Joey at 16) are in Colbys room, which is decorated with Spielberg stuff, obviously Dawsons room at 16. Colby and Sam are described as being engaged in a "dramatic outpouring of adolescent angst". Basically theyre talking about whether Sam has feelings for Colbys best friend "Petey". Sam denies having any sort of "subconscious subliminal intentions" towards Petey, they're just friends. Theyre on Colbys bed a la season 1. Colby asks if theyre "friends" the way Colby and Sam are "just friends"? Sam "thinks long and hard, not sure how to answer" and says Yes.

Colby realizes a "painful and sad truth". The camera pulls back on the two confused and conflicted teens.

To me, it looks like this is Dawsons movie, in the future, probably some sort of a hit, or a TV pilot, whatever. Ill have it typed up so you can judge for yourself in a while.


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 04/03/03 13:47

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I have the most horrible spoilers. I hope they are false. I can't even post them because they make me sick to my stomach. I need confirmation by the PN spoiler girls. One thing I can confirm is this. It is the most horrible thing.

Karensisco at PN confirmed Jen dies in the series finale. It gets worse. I hate Kevin Williamson. I hope the critics laugh their asses off.


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 04/03/03 14:10
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Hshap- I've heard rumors that Pacey and Andie are the ones getting married in the finale. Any speculation on your part? :tantrum


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 04/03/03 14:31

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Oh my freaking gosh. Jen did I not say I had a feeling that was going to happen last night in IM. :wall


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  New Spoilers # 2
 Posted: 04/03/03 19:18
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Um, yeah Diana... :thinking that's where I heard the speculation! LMAO :drink :shake :drink


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 Posted: 04/03/03 21:20

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I hope these spoilers turn out false. Let's just say that right now I am going to be sick. I don't want to bring them over until I get confimation from the spoiler queens. Maybe, the Jen thing isn't true. If any of this is true, it is going to be the worse finale in the history of tv.

I did just get this.

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I've heard numerous times that Meredith is NOT returning even though they wanted her to come back so in my opinion, these spoilers are way off. It's just a white draft floating around so far. I'm sure we'll know more once it starts filming.


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 Posted: 04/04/03 09:10

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GRay- I am not trying to doubt you any, but I have some serious concerns about the memo you posted for the general public. First of all., I've worked for NBC affiliates since I've been out of school. We never get a synopsis of how "Friends" is going to end their season finale. WE may get the general overview of the mainframe that is going on, but never the end.

Second, an Acct. Executive could never include that memo in their sales kit. The grammer and sentence structure was horrible, and I find it hard to believe the network level people would ever let anything like that trickle done to their affiliates.

I don't think the rest of the story is being let out, in fact I know some of it isn't.

P.S. Since I refuse to go to FF I have a question for Stela who frequents here quite often. You think those DJ scenes in 623 are angsty..I would beg to differ. However, how much do I love the end of 623


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 Posted: 04/04/03 09:13
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GRay- I am not trying to doubt you any, but I have some serious concerns about the memo you posted for the general public


What did the memo say? :dunno :dunno


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 Posted: 04/04/03 18:30

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like i said earlier, there really are inconsistencies between the 623 script and the spoilers from the WB memo.

and you can best believe that if dawson is about to profess his love for joey, it would be mentioned at FF already.

Honey My Love, i think stela is probably using "reconnect" in a very diplomatic, platonic way. not in a romantic way.


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 Posted: 04/05/03 14:13

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So come on tell me, are there more spoilers

It has to be Joey and Pacey finale, just give us a little piece of 623 so maybe we know that were on the right track/


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 Posted: 04/05/03 14:59
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:thinking In my experience with spoilers.. I can say that I would trust the script pages over the WB "whatever" anyday. So come on spill! What do they say? :beg :grin


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 Posted: 04/05/03 20:19

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***PACEY NOT ONLY WORKS IN A BAR/RESTAURANT, HE OWNS THE ESTABLISHMENT. (credit Stela at FF)

***JACK IS A TEACHER. (credit Stela at FF)

***JEN WORKS AT AN ART GALLERY IN NEW YORK. (credit Stela at FF)

I don't want to give you guys a heart attack, so I won't post the ones I read yesterday that I think are fake. One said Pacey is going to end up a loser. Now, it looks like Pacey is going to be successful.


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