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(8/4/01 7:09:41 am)

1.OK we have a sexy, appealing, talented actor whose popularity is at an all time high. And we have a fugly, stiff, boring actor whose name is mentioned in the media primarily as the punchline for jokes...Yep, lets feature the stiff and bury the sexy guy in a dead end storyline no one will care about.

2.OK, next. We have a couple that has totally captivated the fans and saved the show from cancellation, with two actors who are great friends, love working together and set the screen on fire with a natural chemistry money can't buy. And we have another couple that's based on a manufactured, artificial @#%$ concept that no one gives a rat's ass about, played by two actors that look like mannequins together reading off a teleprompter...Yep, let's ram those schmuckmates down the audiences throat, whether they like it or not. After all, it's OUR show.

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(8/4/01 10:10:21 am)
Now? We have seen one of the greatest tv couple's ever and we are supposed to want D/J together again? In season one and two I just didn't like them together because they bored me, to me there has never been anything about D/J to like. Now it literally makes me mad that might be putting D/J together once again. Don't they see what we see every time P/J come within 2 feet of each other? Don't they see the potenial for a great love story between these two?

Look what Katie did for Josh

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(8/4/01 11:29:46 pm)
also find that fact the Katie and Michelle went to bat for Josh amusing. I don't think I ever heard of any of them saying anything when James's character was ripped to shreads in season three(which BTW I loved the downfall of Dawson that season). I could be wrong, but I don't think they talked to TPTB about it.

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All of JJ and KH's hard work with the protrayal of their character's relationship can not be forgotten. When I look at all the P.J interaction, it is still amazing. It can't be reuined because chemistry like that is so rare.

I still feel very dissapointed, but I have faith that when Josh and Katie are on screen together, we will still see that chemistry and Pacey and Joey will not be over.


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I have to agree. The chemistry between JJ/KH is amazing. It reminds me alot of Max and Liz from Roswell. It's just something that was there no matter what. Some people have it and some people don't...like KH/JVDB. Where are you finding all this stuff?


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There are different websites I go to. I just found another goody.

Nylon Magazine Article

She and co-star Joshua Jackson have interesting karma. Three seasons ago, they were dating in real life. Now their characters have hooked up. The love scenes between Pacey and Joey are mini-squirmfests, something along the lines of watching Sonny and Cher do their couple shtick after they'd divorced. I ask Katie about the love scenes. "Maybe there's a hint of realism?" she offers cautiously. "It's been such a long time since we dated. I guess the audience can read into it whatever they want. It's such different circumstances for all four people involved. I guess if Pacey and Joey dated the first season, there would be a more clear indication of what's going on between us. But it' just so far from that."

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I think... but I don't know for sure, that Katie wasn't too happy about the Joey/Charlie sex thing. I don't think she was actually "crying," per se, but she was just reported to be "upset." I am assuming what Roxy meant by "immortality" was that the scene has already been filmed and there's no changing it now. It's done. I heard something about Katie not caring for Chad Michael Murray much, but again, that could just be a rumor. I also think what Roxy meant about 515 is that all that screentime was used as a compromise for Katie to agree to the stuff in 519


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Can I clarify something here? Those fffreaks can't even get what they're fffreaking out over right. No one EVER said that Katie called her agent over potential D/Jo sex, either in Promicide or later in the season. The big rumor that was going around Wilmington while I was down there a week after they filemd Promicide, and which I had heard from online friends about two weeks before they filmed it, is that Katie was very upset with the original script for the prom episode and got her agent involved for them to change it. I have NO idea what was in the original script that she didn't like, or even whether it was changed at all. But it was NOT about D/Jo having sex. Just to clarify: UGH.

I wonder what the original script was like. If people thought that episode was bad, the original must have been horrible.

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(5/6/01 7:12:51 am)

Smill Smeigh, thank you for clarifying that the rumor WASN'T that in 420 D/Jo have sex but the rumor WAS that Katie didn't like 420's script at all. I also heard the rumor that Josh wasn't to thrilled with the script and went to the big dawgs to get it changed. Anyway, thank you Smill and CONGRATS!

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Hey ShiningBright I think that was me! I was talking about those interviews KH and JJ gave that were on the WB site. It was just KH and JJ playing and talking and it was still more interesting and had more chemistry than any scripted D/J scene with multiple takes, four different camera angles and emotive music playing in the background. Actually I think they come off better when they don't have the crappy lines and sappy music, Katie Holmes has a nice laugh and both of them flirt real good not that you would know it by watching the show. As you said (or is that as I said)point and shoot.

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Josh and Katie have ALWAYS gotten along...ALWAYS! There are numerous and numerous accounts from extras on the sets of DC that say Katie is more open with Josh, that he makes her laugh, that they love to be around each other even after a day of shooting. So whatever those D/Jers think, let them believe what they want. They actually think that Katie and the Beek are meant to be together in real life.

Hottest Dressed, Best Supporting Date and Worst Loser: Ted Ganders at His Crystal Ball

From julie: Don't be coy! Is Joshua Jackson dating anyone?
I hear it's not completely over with Katie.

Do you know when this is from? March 22, 2001

Here's the link www.eonline.com/Gossip/Te...0322a.html

I don't know if it is true, but this is pretty juicy.


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Ok...but how are they together now on the set? Now that she's got Chris? And he has Rosario? Or did they break up?


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This is from the end of season 4. This is what he said. I have no idea if it is true, but why would he lie. It seems possible. Didn't she adlib "I love you" and "my love." She even got them to rewrite Promicide. I don't know, but it does make me giddy.


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This is the French interview that I translated in English

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Joshua and Katie
Here only for you an interview of Josh and Katie, they speak about their last history of love:

Speak us about your first meeting?

Joshua: " On my side I had come with my mother who is a director of casting has Hollywood. She held absolutely has that I take down the role. From nature not being distressed, I spent the day to laugh with the team without forgetting to throw a glance on the girls who passed hearing. At this point in time I noticed Katie."

Katie: " When I arrived at the casting, I belonged to a theatre company and I was not very motivated has the idea of played in a series for banked-up bed. It is Kevin Wiliamson which held so that I pass hearing. It is this day besides there that I saw for the first Joshua time "

And your first impressions?

Joshua: "Well on, I had had the breath cut while looking at it! but I said myself that such a pretty girl would never be interested in me and that,de any way; I would never dream it! And then Kevin warned my mother whom I had the role and which Katie was it also engaged, I found that rather funny! "

Katie: "the shortly after hearing, without being able to explain it to me, I was not able to remove me head the image of this boy of which I nothing knew. I wanted to know some more has his subject. Then I called Kevin to inform me about him. It answered me that I will quickly be fixed because "the mysterious boy was going finally to be my partner."

How did it pass your first scenes?

Joshua: "the situation were absurd. You see "the beautiful one and the animal"? I found myself opposite a girl sublimates to whom I was to say the worst horrors and that I marrer between each catches made. I am re-examined repeating me: calm, Josh, it laughs by pure courtesy, it will have forgotten you as soon as the scene will be out of box! "

Katie: "I had just turned my first scenes rather intense with James and I connected with Josh for our first argument. As Joey and Pacey were not over the same wavelength at the commencement of the series, our counterparts were summarized has names of birds. Finally when I did not have the insane-laughter! "

Speak us about your first agitations?

Joshua: "That made 2 months that one turned together and that it was seen the every day, that one discussed all... until this episode which very precipitated. There was this scene or Katie changes close to the truck, which Katie did not know, it is that I only one crumb of its anatomy in the rear view mirror had not lost! "

Katie: "Like the scenes between Pacey and Joey functioned well, Kevin had written to us a superb episode in the middle of the first season in which one was" to let oneself go "according to his thermal baths. This day there, I understood that I did not want to be Joey any more the shy person but quite simply Katie to really be able to embrace it! "

Who took the first step?

Joshua: "This morning there, Katie wore a sweater over, a skirt out of jean and tongs. I could never forget it. Very happened so quickly: the declaration, the kiss, turning. We were on a cloud. Each day which passed brought us closer one the other.

Katie: "It is me which broke the ice. I had acknowledged my feelings to him. I like was magnetized by him. I côtoyais it recently but it was as if one had always known. I smelled simply that it was him my first true love.!"

How did it pass your first kiss?

Joshua: "A the time I lived with James and, a beautiful morning, Katie unloaded like a rocket in my room and asked me to leave with it. It was the first time that a pretty girl was interested in me. The life were beautiful! "

Katie: "I think that that of summer the longest kiss of the series except camera. One embraced oneself in front of James then a member of the team came to say to us that it were time to turn. I was with the angels...!

Why broke?

Joshua: "With the striking down success of Dawson we were confronted with the celebrity and an increasingly imposing media life. One broke because our lives started has to take opposite directions. I do not regret anything, but, sometimes when I look at the sublime girl who became Katie I recognize that I have a small pinching in the heart... "

Katie: "That was eight month of an intense relation and a formidable complicity. Then the first signs of breathlessness appeared... By mutual agreement, we separated. But Josh will remain always my first love! "


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Oh...Josh will always remain her first love!


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I think it was love at first site for Katie. You want to know something funny. When the show first premiered, I said that I was hoping Joey and Pacey would get together by the end of the episode. I was delusional, but then was so happy when I found out they were together in real life.


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Maybe I'm just weird, but I'm a sucker for P/J fight scenes. I can watch them over and over. I think because there is so much passion and emotion in them. I mean, look at that picture, when they fight, it's like they are the only two people on the earth. Even if the fight is about Dogboy, it's like he isn't even there. They don't even notice his big head!

This is so true. I was watching a Winter's Tale the other day and I loved watching Joey and Pacey argue about sex and that blond girl Anna. Especially after last season's fake crap, I would love if this happened this season.


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That would be so funny to see them fight again.


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And NO! I do not want Pacey to sit back and accept the 'reunion.' It will be the end for me. But sadly, I can see TMTB doing exactly that. He does think Dawson has everything and he only just graduated HS. What crap!

I look back to the S3 and early/mid S4 eps sadly. Josh and Katie acted their hearts out and not it just seems wasted.

Rough Water on Dawson's Creek

Many insiders are suggesting that Dawson's Creek may have a storm on the horizon in the form of repeat story lines and unhappy stars.

Buzzle Staff Editor, 4/10/2001

Although Dawson's Creek still holds its position as one of the WB's biggest hits and a consistent ratings draws, those close to the show are reporting that the final episodes of the season, including the season finale, are shaping up in an eerily similar fashion to last year's final episodes. It seems that Joey is going to have to choose once again between her philosophical "best friend for life," Dawson, and the somewhat troubled but eternally lovable Pacey. If you're experiencing déjà vu, don't be alarmed - that is the exact same story line as last season. Why, you ask, are the producers going back to such a recently used formula? It seems that the power that be on the Dawson's set, namely Dawson, has stated his dislike for the fact that the show's primary character has taken a back seat to its supporting cast, Joey and Pacey.

The fact that the show has elevated both Katie Holmes and Josh Jackson to superstar status has blurred the chain of command on the set. Viewers seem to be equally intrigued by all three of the characters in one of television's most complicated love triangles. While Dawson's moves toward its season finale, producers should be wary that appeasing their stars could cost the show dearly in the long run. As they attempt to refocus on Dawson, they could lose some of the magic that the show has generated lately and could find themselves sinking in Dawson's Creek. Does anyone else see a 'Joey Loves Pacey' spin-off coming?

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Views on the scene where Joey loses her virginity to Pacey.

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Roxy that was awesome, man PJers kick ass
Sharone I am a little sad about "Show Me Heaven" but it's ok cuz the nookie scene was one of the best things I have ever seen. Pacey and Joey just have this chemistry that you can't describe. It's like words aren't good enough. You know what I mean?

The tongue was great. Everything they said was so cute. Joey said some really sweet stuff and so did Pacey. Sharone the giggle was very cute. Katie and Josh kick ass, all I can say is that you can't act that good so I don't think it's all acting. I think they are together again. I really don't know what to say cuz Pacey and Joey made me speechless, they were that awesome. It's not just the nookie it was how you can just see TRUE LOVE in their eyes and hear it in their voice. You guys know what I mean? If that's not TRUE LOVE I don't know what is. TRUE LOVE wins again

PJERS GET READY TO PARTY CUZ WE GOT THE NOOKIE AND SO MUCH MORE

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Not only did we see Josh's tongue...which was blatantly obvious...I happened to see Katie's as well...for those of you who taped it(which should be all of you), it's the FIRST kiss in the big close up...you see a tongue...and it slinks back into Katie's mouth...

Tongue action from both sides...can we just say that this scene probably meant a hell of a lot more to them then they probably say it does.

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To me, that last scene was the single best tv scene I have ever seen and I have watched alot of tv in my life. I can't even put into words how beautiful it was. I downloaded the song that was playing during the last scene off Napster and her are the lyrics to the song from dawsonscreekmusic.com, I love this song. The words are also beautiful.

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Man everytime I watch the NOOKIE scene I love it more and more. It's just amazing how awesome Pacey and Joey are. I really didn't know what to say about because words really aren't good enough Their was only one thing that kinda made me mad and that was Dawson but I don't think we can talk about it here.

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Those lines weren't in the original script that I read.

I love the fact that she ad-libbed those lines!

My love...Sweetheart!

HOOK UP WITH HIM ALREADY!

GOT NOOKIE? We did.

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OMG ANG! I can't believe you didn't like that song!

I thought I wasn't going to like it either but the more I watched the last scene (which has been at least 100 times since it aired) the more I love it! I downloaded it too! It's so...Mmmmmmm! It makes me think of Pacey's back muscles...and tongue...and Joey's giggle...and the heavy breathing that was going on between them during that scene.

*sigh*

I needed more nookie. In the script we were supposed to see them fall into the bed together like "feathers"!

*sigh*

Mmmmmmmm...Pacey's back muscles take my breath away!

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God the heavy breathing. The making out. The giggle! HOT!

all that chemistry has to be coming from somewhere
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You mean, back when people actually watched this show. Back when Shar was happy about this show. Back before it all slide completely downhill (it was already on its way. Think of the various Dawson-ghost fights last November.)

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I did't think it was a giggle. It didn'tr sound like a gigle at all to me.
I thought it was more involuntary heavy outakes of breath that she couldn't help making cos Josh was really turning her on! Sorry, I mean Pacey!


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Greetings everyone!

I agree that TPTB must have known earlier that JVB might be in a movie. I would assume that he would have to sort out his schedule and availability with both the producers of DC and the producers of the movie. So having said that, surely tptb would have worked something out sooner.

Which leads me to believe that the rewrites must be for something else and I hope and pray that is because tptb are realising that we are not happy. But as I've said before...I have no faith in tptb or the writers.

All of JJ and KH's hard work with the protrayal of their character's relationship can not be forgotten. When I look at all the P.J interaction, it is still amazing. It can't be reuined because chemistry like that is so rare.


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TPTB...gotta love them. :nono


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I'm happy that there will now be a P/J scene in #502. In fact, I'm very happy. You know why? As long as they're given scenes together, it doesn't matter what the dialogue says. I have faith that Josh and Katie will exude from every pore the angst and longing inherent in an unfinished relationship. Although there was some very good writing during the season three build up of P/J, it has always been Josh and Katie's chemistry and convincing portrayals that have made the P/J relationship so compelling. They overpower everyone else with the strength and depth of their connection.

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Think about it this way ~ Pacey and Andie (a fairly popular couple, but nowhere near where Pacey and Joey were) received FIVE episodes dedicated to closure of their relationship: "Homecoming", "None of the Above", "Secrets and Lies", "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner", and "Barefoot at Capeside". Now if they did all of that for a secondary couple, we should expect that and SO MUCH MORE for Pacey and Joey - which is the story that reinvigorated the show.

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Its like a comedy of errors isn't it? You have these writer/producer/deafdumbandblind hacks and they are faced with these choices:

1.OK we have a sexy, appealing, talented actor whose popularity is at an all time high. And we have a fugly, stiff, boring actor whose name is mentioned in the media primarily as the punchline for jokes...Yep, lets feature the stiff and bury the sexy guy in a dead end storyline no one will care about.

2.OK, next. We have a couple that has totally captivated the fans and saved the show from cancellation, with two actors who are great friends, love working together and set the screen on fire with a natural chemistry money can't buy. And we have another couple that's based on a manufactured, artificial @#%$ concept that no one gives a rat's ass about, played by two actors that look like mannequins together reading off a teleprompter...Yep, let's ram those schmuckmates down the audiences throat, whether they like it or not. After all, it's OUR show.

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Here's the latest scoop on the rewrites. The reason for them is because they were going to make a D/J reunion right away, but now they are going to postpone it for awhile. They dont know how long, but they are. Also, as Monica had said, Josh will be in the first episode where Jen finds him at his new house boat thats in Boston Bay. There was also going to be a scene with Pacey and Karen but Im not for sure if that is a go for now. Next, another reason for the rewrites is because Michelle and YES Katie went to the producers and said that Josh needs more screen time. He wasnt going to be in the first ep. at all and probably wouldnt have seen much of him until 504ish. Now, there will be the first encould of P/J in 502.

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Oh...Please there is no contest...Pacey and Joey...have by far the most chemistry...the show may have gotten watched the first couple of seasons..but the popularity of the show did not sky rocket until they put Pacey and Joey together..I know for a fact I was not interested in the show until they put them together...the longing looks ..trying to fight their feelings for each other..sure beats watching someone who thinks they are @#%$ but can't even stay together for a season because it wasn't interesting enough for the viewers..unlike P/J who did..


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From nctsr99: Who's this mysterious blonde Josh Jackson is dating?
I've heard unconfirmed rumours. But I've also heard confirmed rumours that he shows up for every one of Katie's scenes--whether he's in them or not. Hmmm...

This is from last season. It wasn't anything, but I still thought it was cute because it shows how close they are.


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