ok...so im back...cuz of the dramatic new OC dang i never thought it would get more dramatic than my life but lo and behold it does..

Oliver..as for him he needs to die or leave..i mean its a good thing hes spicing things up a bit but dang he's messed up a lot of things in the past few weeks. anyone agree?

One more eppie then we wait 3 weeks...ugh with oliver gone what else could happen besides the sex btw seth and summer..not to mention whats gonna happen with ryan and marissa but..i will be tuned in to see it.. and i hope u will be too..

-Manda-

Hello!

Not sure if this is the ep you are talking about (seeing as how I am delayed in getting to see the episodes here), but I just watched "The Rivals", and I have to get my frustration out somewhere:

Those last two eps SUCKED big time. First off, Seth and Anna together do not work at all in the sense that Seth is starting to be boring and actually annoy me (which is creepy). That Danny person needs to be slapped urgently because he is so bogus. Luke doesn't even have a character anymore; he goes from *sshole to accessible guy because he's in a personal crisis due to his dad to abolsute clown (what the hell was with that concert scene with Rooney?! ).
Marissa is going down the Joey Potter-path, meaning, I'm ready to smack her because she is being so stupid.
Sandy is being slightly incoherent as well; he has always been a quick one to decide, but buying a restaurant out of the blue? Ok...
Julie and Caleb - Not even worth a comment, as is Haley.

Now: how come that the only person I can actually stand right now is Ryan? And, most importantly, why is it that everybody else on the show seems to have got their minds blown away?! What exactly is going on and why are the writers messing with my favorite show at the moment?!

How exactly can everyone be so stupid to NOT notice what that freak Oliver is doing? How come that Marissa is damn quick to excuse everything he does but doesn't give a damn about Ryan if he dares to even look at them squarely? Why is she so ready to blame Ryan for everything that's going on right away, when Ryan did ignore his personal feelings and called Sandy to get the freak out of jail? How can she be like, oops, Oliver was kidding after the golf accident and then race off after Oliver to make sure that lump of insanity is ok?

And most of all, why the hell is LUKE of all people, you know, crazy, stupid, ex-arrogant Luke, the only one who understands Ryan and sees that he has a point? Where is Seth with all the "what happend to Ryan and Seth-quality time" when it is needed?

These last two episodes I saw ("The Rivals" and the one before) sucked majorly, and me getting worked up over it like this might want me to actually stop watch this show. I can't believe they're messing it up like this. Not after it started out so well.

Sorry for my venting.

I agree with you completely, Stalker. I hate Oliver so freaking much and I hate Marissa for the way she is always sticking up for him and the way she treats Ryan. How can she not see the way he is manipulating her? And that everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie? God, she is so dumb. I hope Ryan kicks her to the curb and finds someone who is more deserving of him.

N one of the spoilers it says that his friend the one we met in a previous eppie when he had to save his brother's @$$ might be coming back and something may happen, but im not sure.

he does need a new girl tho. like the OLD marissa not easily manipulated oh oliver this oh oliver that person needs to GO and soon.

-Manda-

RYN-the old girlfriend of ryan's when he goes down to some place in cali and helps his brother out he has to go to her house and say hey whats up with marissa. and marissa stays with that family and ryan goes and steals the car and then marissa says she wants to go etc.

-manda-

well depends on what angle FOX takes. Obviously there is something btwn them or once was..so it might be good to rekindle that and forget bout marissa for a while..so he gets treated better...

-manda-

good point. i wish i was a writer for FOX or some of the people on here were it would make it all the more interesting as to what would happen..they can take it in a few ways...im just waitin to see which one they take and hope its a good one.

-manda-

marissa and ryan apart for awhile maybe as friends and..maybe a new girl prospect for ryan..and marissa grieving from olivers death since shes being so ditzy these days.

seth and summer finally hooking up and admiting they like each other publicly because seth/summer action needs to come back.

as for anna and oliver...see ya oliver and come back soon anna just not as seths g/f..summer said it best..you're are better off as bro/sis than anything else...

tell me what ya think

-manda-

Ditto.

I am somewhat scared about what they are going to do to the Seth/ Summer-part though, seeing as how they managed to screw Seth with Anna up roally... I swear to God, if they do it with Seth and Summer, too, I'm dropping the show!

Manda - Think we could send you in as a writer for the show? It'd be cool, and we'd be safe.

Yeah, well, that's a start. If they screw it up, let's retreat into the realm of fanfic and re-write, ok?