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As far as series finales go, Buffy the Vampire Slayer's was a doozy. We laughed, we cried, we hurled large objects at the TV in utter despair. But darnit if the show's creator, Joss Whedon, didn't leave us wanting more... closure, that is. For example, why of all the Scoobies did Anya (Emma Caulfield) have to die? And what's the deal with Spike (James Marsters), who bit the dust just days after making a date with Angel this fall? For answers to those questions and more, read on...

TV Guide Online: I have a bone to pick with you: When last we spoke, you claimed that "no decision" had been made about bringing Spike over to Angel next season. Then, days later, the WB announced that, well, Spike would be making his way to Angel next season. Why did you lie to me, man?

Joss Whedon: It wasn't until the last minute that it was actually decided that he was going to be a regular on the show. When I spoke to you, a) it was true that we didn't know his status, and b) he was about to die on Buffy, so the less about him being on Angel in the press beforehand, the better.

TVGO: Fair enough. But couldn't the WB hold off on announcing it?

Whedon: There was no f---ing way. They were very excited about James. They have a shiny blond thing to show people, and they're gonna do it.

TVGO: So, how do you plan to resurrect Spike?

Whedon: That's a conversation I'm going to be having with the Angel writers very soon.

TVGO: There's always Shanshu (the ancient prophecy introduced during Angel's first season that says once a soulful vampire fulfills his destiny, he becomes human).


Whedon: It's not quite that simple, although a lot of people have been making reference to that. But that's an interpretation, and ultimately could become the interpretation if we decide to go that way. I have some other ideas. The trick is how to bring him back without losing the integrity of what he did... the sacrifice. If it's just, "Hey, I'm back!" then that whole moment at the end of Buffy is kind of lame now. Like Buffy returning from the dead, it's going to be something that we're going to have to earn and play the ramifications of, possibly without making it so depressing.

TVGO: Will you pair him with a new special someone?

Whedon: I'm still trying to figure out how to bring him back to life. I don't think he's the kind of guy that would be like, "Well, that was a fun time with Buffy... " I don't think he feels a sense of resolve or resolution about the relationship. I think he feels that he was ready to sacrifice himself for her, and it was a beautiful thing, but... it wasn't like he's cured of loving Buffy any more than Angel is.

TVGO: Now that Buffy is free to do whatever she likes, how will you explain why she doesn't make a beeline for Angel?

Whedon: Well, I think I did in the episode. She said very specifically she doesn't want to go and find a boyfriend. She wants to go and find herself — spend some time becoming a grown-up and finding out who she is, and then she can stop to find out who fits with that. That was the point of the whole cookie dough speech. Her internal search isn't for a boyfriend, it's for herself. And then if true love fits into that, that would be the best thing ever. But if she instantly went off and attached herself to Angel, she'd be throwing away everything she'd just been given, which is her freedom. It would be the last thing she would do. Well, not the last thing. She wouldn't do it until sweeps

TVGO: November sweeps?

Whedon: I don't know if necessarily it will be November, but she has stated time and again that she's perfectly willing to come on and make an appearance, assuming schedules work out. Nothing's definite, but it's as sure a shot as one could hope for.

TVGO: Why was Anya marked for death?

Whedon: I wanted to kill somebody, and I wanted to do it brutally and suddenly and never really pay it off. I wanted a death that was a real middle-of-the-battle death — the opposite of the Spike death, [which was] perfect, noble. And Emma had made it clear that she really was not interested in coming back. I think things with Fox weren't great and she felt ill-used — not by the show. She had a good time making the show, I think. But she was ready to move on. But it was tough [killing her off]. The last shot before we wrapped her was that shot where she gets sliced. And it's very weird to play your death and go, "Okay, I'm done."

TVGO: No one seemed to be too broken up about it.

Whedon: I had a lot to wrap up, so I let Xander (Nicholas Brendon) have a moment of closure about her, just enough to get him to the point where he could rejoin the group for a moment of, well, "We won." You have to get yourself to a good place if you want the show to go out on an uplifting moment, which I did. So I used shorthand.

TVGO: Had you known that Eliza Dushku was going to pass on the spinoff, would you have killed off Faith?

Whedon: No, I doubt it. There's a certain element where the loss becomes unacceptable for a happy ending, and the idea that she's been the primary Slayer behind Buffy, it felt like she should be in that mix.

TVGO: Given Eliza's decision, do you regret not making Dawn (Michelle Trachtenberg) a Slayer?


Whedon: No, I don't think Dawn was meant to be a Slayer — both mythologically and emotionally. Dawn plays a different part than that. I don't think we necessarily got to explore all the aspects of Dawn's character that I would have liked to have, because she kind of got swept up in the larger story. But being a Slayer was never one of them. That's not to say you couldn't build a spinoff around Michelle — she's an interesting actress, and the same goes for a lot of the players. But I wouldn't just necessarily take someone and make them a Slayer. I don't think that would really fly.

TVGO: Today is the first day of life after Buffy. How are you holding up?

Whedon: I'm doing just fine, because it's like Day 13 of trying to get my 5-month-old to sleep, so I just go from one problem to the next. (Pauses) Your sense of closure never comes when you think it's going to. It'll happen two weeks from Monday. I'll suddenly go, "Good Lord. My entire life has changed."


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There you go, Mr. J...we may get to see SMG on some eppys of Angel now...if her time allows it. :clap :clap :clap


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:fight It would be a bona-fide treat seeing SMG on Angel as the Buffster. I think it would be some interesting drama with the Buffy/Angel/Spike thing going on. I hope it seriously happens cause it would be a bitchin' hour of TV.:bat


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i'd heard rumours that SMG wouldn't be going on any episodes of angel and i was mortified! but now it seems as though it may actually happen and all i can saw is "too bloody right!". it will sooooo help to clear up the 'huh?' feeling i got (and i sure most got) from the last episode and leaves the opportunity for some great buffy/spike/angel scenes. that i will NOT be missing! i expect some serious fights :fight2 , flights :run and tearful reunions :cry2 :hug to come!


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I've been wanting Buffy to come back on Angel forever now! If my memory serves me right, she was only on a couple times in season 1. Far too long ago! :shake :shake I would love for her to stop by...the episode(s) would surely be interesting! :grin


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:fight There was no "huh" feeling here. I thought it ended great.The girl got her life back and simultaneously smacked down the First Evil. However, like every series finale, it left me wanting more dammit.I've been watching season six in it's entirety over the last week, which some see as the worst season, but I gotta tell ya, looking at Buffy from a big picture way it all makes sense. Season 6 was just one of those things that made the show better in the end. Anyway back to crossovers. I'd love if Buffy came over to Angel. It doesn't even necesarily have to be Buffy. Willow could just as easily inform us humble viewers exactly what Buffy has been up to since the hellmouth ate Sunnydale. Of course if Buffy and Willow make the trip to LA, I'll be very very please. I just hope Buffy didn't go to Cleveland. That's where Giles said there was another Hellmouth right? It's kinda funny that we've watch the girl for seven years and none of us have a clue what she'll do. Will she leave the life of a slayer behind? Will she go and help rebuild the council and become a watcher type? or Will she go in search of another Hellmouth?I tend to go for the first choice, but if she's coming to Angel then that may not be the case at all.:Bat


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I have to agree with you, Mr. J. As much as I liked the finale...it did make me wonder what exactly her new life would involve. Hopefully...she's just Buffy...girl next door who's not out killing demons. Just Buffy. :)


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:fight I'd like that too, but then the question becomes "will girl next door Buffy be a as interesting as defender of the night buffy" when she makes her inevitable appearance on Angel? I mean if the girl has given up the life of the slayer altogether, then why would she even come to Angel. His life is just as complex and just as plagued with darkness as hers was/is. Throughout the entire show I knew I wanted it to end with her getting the chance to be normal, and now it's here and I find myself not enjoying it as much as I thought I would. The thought of Buffy turning her back on that life seems almost out of character with all the growth and acceptance she's gone through over the past few years. If all this happened in say season 2 I would have went for it, because at that time she hadn't really accepted into it. She mostly did it because of Giles' presence and the fact that Angel was a part of that world. Make no mistake though, I am happy for Buffy that she actually gets to choose for once instead of being the chosen. But it's hard picturing her doing much else besides slaying vampires. I'd love it if she joined the council as a mentor and trainner or something. It seems like a perfect fit. She'd get paid to do something that she's good at and is already a part of. She seemed very at home trainning the potentials all season long. Sure it had it's bumpy patches, but in the end those girls really came through. And they didn't do just on slayer prowess alone, they did it cause that'd been preparing all season long with the Buffster. In my gut, I know Joss will do what's right for the character when she makes her triumphant return, so I probably have very little to worry about. At least she didn't die. :bat


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Yes, It should be very interesting to see how Joss would/will explain her appearance on Angel. However, he never actually came right out and said that Buffy decided to be the girl-next-door. We all just assumed it because it's what she's been talking about. She very well may go on to battle those demons. It's in her blood and I think she very well may try to not do that. But in the end...it's what she does. She's a slayer. And that may be what brings her to LA. :dunno Just a thought.


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