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Author: | bunniefuu [ 05/14/02 03:33 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
For tonights final speeches. |
Author: | MeowthTRAM369 [ 05/14/02 15:09 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
::wails:: I'm really upset to see it end..but.. seriously...I did not enjoy the final episode. It felt like it was thrown together at the last minute..it barely tied any loose ends...what? They just leave Roswell? Nothing was in depth..nothing..nothing...no...no, why did it end like that? I can't say that I am happy at all with the ending..it was too abrupt..why couldn't they have made it 2 hours? I don't get it..the only good parts were Kyle, the wedding (which wasn't even that great IMO) and Michael telling Maria that he loved her...bluhh..I did not enjoy it..I wish it was better..even the ending with Liz doing the voice-over for her journal..no, it didn't work. It did make me cry at some parts, but it was too brief..not enough. I mean, Graduation? Come one..so many plot holes left..so many..not enough depth..I'm pretty redundant, huh? I am really upset it ended like this..it wasn't a strong enough ending. Did the writers even THINK about how to end it? I mean..it was..I really don't want to say it, but I thought it was horrible. Not the worst it could be, but it could have been a lot better...::sniff:: Well, it's over. That's it..no more Roswell..how I miss the first season..::sigh:: |
Author: | AbsoluteAngel58 [ 05/14/02 15:13 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Damn it... I'm freaking going blank... That ep was... I dunno... jeez I really honestly liked it. If that is the last episode we're ever going to have it sure as hell was a good way of ending it. OK the scenes I liked the best we're the scenes in the end with Kyle and Jim. I was almost in tears. That was sad, how they were both saying goodbye knowing they probably wouldn't see each other again. The last part with the voice over of Liz talking about it all being the end, shit those lines there were good so was that speech Max was giving in the graduation, how they were all just finally giving up, how they only had each other to cling too, how they were all wounded. All in all I really liked the ep and IMO was a good way to end the show with them going into the unknown... Edited: I shoulda added this sooner, but only thought of it now... anyone notice when the guy was talking about the base being blown he didn't mention Tess dyin? The freaky dude said, something about them maybe being linked to the person who destroyed the base or somewhere alone the lines of that, yep I bet Tess isn't dead. She's probably with Zan somewhere hiding! |
Author: | destinyros2005 [ 05/14/02 15:24 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Ok...all I can say right now, is: I'll get back to you all when I compose myself...IF I compose myself! |
Author: | bunniefuu [ 05/14/02 15:34 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Destinyros~ I have to agree with you. I think I need to sleep on it. I'm a little too sentimental right now. |
Author: | destinyros2005 [ 05/14/02 15:39 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Let's see... Nope...still trying not to cry! |
Author: | bunniefuu [ 05/14/02 15:43 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Destinyros~ Your too funny. I think I will wait until tomorrow to compose my summary. I can't breathe at the moment. It's been a rough day as is. Darn, does our renewel have to come at the worst freakin time? AGH. What a lonely 4 weeks it's going to be. |
Author: | Hannah245 [ 05/14/02 16:09 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Oh god! I can't believe this will be the last episode ever! I'm still teary from it. The Kyle/Jim scene thats when I broke out into my first set of tears the second set broke out with the Jesse/Isabel break up scene. Even though I'm a huge InCrowder and Stargazer I couldn't help but feel bad for Jesse. He really grew on me. The only good things about this episode were the M/L scenes especially when Max proposed to Liz that was so beautiful, and Lizs voice overs. Ugh JK is so evil! We didn't get to see M/L cement or their wedding! Just the end of their wedding! Don't get me wrong I loved that they got married at the end, but JK promised that this episode would be for us dreamers. Sure they got married, but we wanted cementing to. Why couldn't they've just made the episode 2 hours long? If they did then they probilly would've shown Max and Liz cement and show their wedding and a lot of the lose ends could've gotten tied up. I wanted my cement and I wanted to see their wedding and I'll never get to see either! Not even a damn honeymoon! Weren't Max and Liz suppose to cement after Liz said yes to his proposel? Oh god I need a lot of fanfictions for this episode that shows both M/L cementing and getting married now! It's so mean! We were forced to sit and watch Max and Tess fuck (with graphic details to! ) and Jesse and Isabels wedding! While we didn't get to see either for Max and Liz! That is sooo mean! JK is going to get spanked. Does anyone have his address so I can complain about the no M/L cementing and not showing their wedding? Is anyone aware that theirs still a lot of lose ends that still needs tied up? The one thats really bugging the hell out of me is. Does Max even know about Future Max? It'd be kinda bad if they got married and he doesn't know about future Max. I couldn't help but feel bad for Jesse, he told Isabel he was willing to except her alien side and take her with him to Boston, and she tells him to get away from her, and their marriage gets broken up. When Jeff read Lizs goodbye letter, he was so sad and at the same time he was trying to keep strong. I think I even saw him shed a few tears. It's still hard to believe that their will never be another new episode of Roswell ever! I want more! ~Hannah Dreamer Candyclaner Stargazer InCrowder Lamptrimmer Dreamer Awakening Double Dipper Eternal Believer B/A 4ever! |
Author: | bunniefuu [ 05/15/02 03:07 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Wow. Whereever to begin. I'll admit I was overwhelmed and saddened just to see it end after 3 long years. I will definitely miss seeing all the characters next year. However, I was disappointed in the finale. So many things just did not go over well with me. First off, the whole storyline did not work well at all. All this time they have always stayed in Roswell to fight their enemies. Why run now? I guess the whole running from problems thing bugs me. Second, did they not realize (as always) it would not solve their problems? I mean if the FBI are after them, don't you think that they would take their parents into custody? For questioning? Wouldn't they think maybe the parents are aliens as well? Although, I did enjoy the engagement scene tremendously, I was so mad that they didn't show them "together". AGH! I couldn't believe for the finale it never showed Maria's mom or Liz's Mom. Guess they really did disappear off the face of the planet. Geez. The wedding. What a disaster. First of all, the dress. Come on, sure it was cute and all, but it was somthing that Maria would of worn, not Liz. I did love her hair though. Second, I knew they would never let us see all of it, but OMG. I remember looking at the clock and it was like 2 minutes to the end, and I swear if you counted to five you would of missed it. Talk about short and uneventful. I had to sit through Isabore's wedding and I didn't even get to see 5 seconds worth of M&L's. I also agree, if there were anything that I would of liked to see more, it would of been the reference to Future Max. They had a perfect lead in to it to. When Liz and Max were talking as if they only had 12 days, why would Liz NOT think of to mention how FMax had once predicted something like this? Okay, I did love the lines Michael gave Maria. That was awesome and I cried. I also loved the Kyle and Valenti scenes. I cried my eyes out over those two. Of course, Kyle has always been a great character and I have truely enjoyed watching him this season. And that song "Good-bye" playing in the background with all the characters just standing there, unsure of what was to come. Also not knowing all of the spoilers, the sniper scene at the Graduation did grab my attention. I had goosebumps literally. I just wasn't expecting that. Good scene. The part at the end with Liz looking out the window was ever so cheesy IMO. Blah. It was all just a little too hippy for me. As far as her voiceover goes, it was nice seeing it back, but again, I would of perferred it showing her writing in her diary as she talked. Sort of like how it all began. Overall, it was sad because it was the last, but I was disappointed on how quickly it was thrown together. Maybe the original 2 hour finale would of turned out a bit better. But then again, I guess I just didn't like the end where they all run away. On the flip side, my favorite part? Would have to of been, when the FBI agents where putting all the pictures together. And they put Michael, Isabel, Max and Liz and said those are the four. Damn right! Now that I knew all the time! They are the Royal Four. |
Author: | blondeePR [ 05/15/02 04:46 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
I have been waiting for this episode and dreading it at the same time. I poured myself a glass of wine and tried to eat a couple of OREOs...but they didn't mix well. Overall...I felt the episode was a little rushed...but what else would i expect from an up and down season. Like most of you know there were a lot of plotholes to clean up and JK seemed to just try and cut and paste them together as best as possible. I give him an A- Everyone had such great parts, but as for Max and Liz something was missing. Max had some great speeches and rightfully deserved. The moment Max propsed to Liz all I could think about is Future Max and how it was suppose to be like. I kept asking myself...will it be better now that Max asked Liz to marry him or Her asking him. I think it makes a statement for the reason behind each of them asking. YOu may just have to compare the speeches each of them gave when they asked the other to marry them? I could go on and on about my thoughts of Max and Liz's scenes...but I won't. Jesse and Isabel...I think they had great parts, but I wonder why do I feel that the story is turning to make them 'star crossed lovers' now? Remember Isabel's line to Jesse...leave me and I'll pray that we may find a way to be together, hopefully? *something like that* I mean this whole season has been about Isabel and Jesse...I mean this whole series was built on Max and Liz...and maybe too because I'm a "dreamer" I couldn't stand to have the light taken away from M/L. Michael and Maria...I loved them more and more I watched them...great stuff. Kyle...diffentely someone to love. I never liked him before...and might be due to the fact he wasn't written well until '4 aliens and a baby' and 'graduation'...but he's something else. I hated seeing max and liz get married...it seemed like the climax to this roller coaster of a show. LOve/Hate type of thing...but I wonder why Liz told this wonderful story in her journal about her being married to Max but claiming 'liz parker' instead of 'liz evans' a little odd i thought. farewell to roswell...I'll miss it greatly |
Author: | Hannah245 [ 05/15/02 10:40 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
Go Bunnifu! Max, Liz, Michael and Isabel are the TRUE royal four! Oh yeah! I couldn't help but think the four pictures of them and the guy saying "their the four." I couldn't help but think that! Max, Liz, Micheal and Isabel are REAL TRUE royal four! This episode is an influence for a lot of possible fanfictions! ~Hannah |
Author: | EsotericaC [ 05/15/02 21:18 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
O.K so here we go... Alright I can start now ! Overall I liked the show, despite all the chads and plots holes. I still think it should have been longer but what do you expect? Too many chads and plot holes and too little time. Firstly this is what I liked: The Engagement scene. Maybe a little too short for my liking but it was very sweet and romantic. I particularly liked Max's expression on his face when Liz said "Yes". Kyle - he is soooo fine. He's got all the good lines and the body to match. I wouldn't mind jumping his bones. Poor fella, a little action down under would have done him the world of good. The FBI scenes. I thought I was completely spoiled so I wasn't expecting that. It was a little too contrived but surprising none the less. Valenti and Kyle's goodbye. Very touching and sad. Michael/Maria - Michael's "I love you" came just in time, funny that ! Jesse wanting to stay with Isabore. Sweet, but a little too late. The Wedding scene. At last, something positive for our lead couple. Though it was a blink and you'll miss it affair. I'm somewhat relieved after the last year and a half of M/L frustration and turmoil, they deserve to be happy damn it ! The Van. A little cheesy but you gotta love a Combi ! Dislikes: The short Wedding scene. No cementing Maria's lipstick - Yuck Isabore's hair - Double Yuck The way too long Graduation scene, especially Max's speech. Liz leaving the Grad ceremony without her Fiance`. Everyone running away fom Roswell. Just didn't make sense. They never have before, why now ? Valenti not attending the Graduation. Why ? The song at the end, bad choice of music. Liz parker. Not Liz Evans or Parker-Evans. Why? The show should have included; A declaration of "Love" by either M/L during the Engagement, Graduation or Wedding scenes. More depth of emotion between M/M at the end and maybe a "kiss". The mother's of Liz and Maria reading the journal. All parents together at the Pod Chamber, burning the journal. That's all for now ! and next on the agenda - Roswell the movie ! |
Author: | blondeePR [ 05/17/02 05:13 ] |
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EsotericaC---- Quote: Quote: The show should have included; A declaration of "Love" by either M/L during the Engagement, Graduation or Wedding scenes. More depth of emotion between M/M at the end and maybe a "kiss". The mother's of Liz and Maria reading the journal. All parents together at the Pod Chamber, burning the journal. I too agree that something of that nature would have been nice to see. I've seen arguements of a 2hr vs. 1hr. series finale. I don't know what happened...i thought there was suppose to be a 2hr end...oh well what else would you expect from JK...he hasn't exactly kept his promises before...why now...right? |
Author: | DramaQueen47 [ 05/17/02 09:12 ] |
Post subject: | Ep.18 Graduation~ The End. |
I was definately crying throughout the whole episode. I DID think they were all gonna die(I didn't read spoilers)...and when it looked liek they were gonna kill Max...man I definately lost it. I mean, yeah this wasn't the greatest show, but it has been a big part of 3 years of my life. I do miss season 1 though, and I will miss Roswell. It will be a part of my life forever, and I will never forget it. Alright...I think that's it... |
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