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Ep 17: "Four Aliens and a Baby" (Spoilers)
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Author:  rjsasko [ 02/11/02 12:05 ]
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Spoiler title for eppy 17. Which means Trash and the Demon Spawn will round out this incredibly horrid season. Joy. What a way to reward the fans: bring in the two most loathed characters in the history of the show. Maybe JK can make it an Isaboob-centric show as well so he can win the a**hole Trifecta.
Author:  Lihara [ 02/11/02 18:39 ]
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Are you sure that it will be trash and the spawn they're
talking about or is it Liz who got pregnant this time by Max
let's not be rash about this Katim said that the ending part will be satysfying to us. They know that if they brought back the trash and her spawn it will be the total death of Roswell.
have you read about the spoiler for this episode already.
Author:  SydneyBristow [ 02/11/02 18:50 ]
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Trash and the spawn come back. Max, Kyle and Michael are totally sweet to her. Max is even protective of her and the spawn. He even breaks a date with Liz so he can be with Trash. All courtsey of RAMS.
Author:  rjsasko [ 02/11/02 20:03 ]
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Trash and the Demon Spawn come back and are welcomed with open arms by Max, Michael, and Kyle. Kyle even asks Trash if she breast feeds the devil child. They coo over SpOT. Trash murders a boatload of soldiers spewing blood all over the place, which she washes off in the Valenti's kitchen sink. Michael partakes of the Snapple with Trash. Michael blows up a few Hummers at the army base in full view of the soldiers to protect Trash and SpOT. Liz wonders whether she should turn Trash in for Alex's murder while everyone else gets out the Bridge Mix and guest towels for Trash.

And none of it is a mindwarp.

Thanks to FF and RAMS for posting this filth.
Author:  Lihara [ 02/11/02 22:37 ]
Post subject:  Ep 17: "Four Aliens and a Baby" (Spoilers)
I don't think that freaking out is the answer to this Episode
cause as long as Tess and the Spawn are still lurking the
universe This issue will not be resolve between Max and Liz
I think we and them needs a closure on this subject
I know that JK will not screw us again cause if he did he
knows that he will see the last of his Roswell and S4 will just
be a dream that will never come true he needs the support
of the large fan based group that support this show. And he knew that we so hate the Tess storyline. He promises that
he will give us a satisfying ending to this season the one
that we desire will happen .

I have several question on this episode:
1. Why is it that only Max , Michael kyle warming up to Tess
why is it that Isabel is not interested.
2. The child is supposedly not be able to survive the
earth atmosphere why is the child here.
3. And lastly the child is supposedly the heir to the Antar
throne and Kivar wants Zan's heir. Why did Kivar let them
go?
Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/12/02 04:16 ]
Post subject:  Ep 17: "Four Aliens and a Baby" (Spoilers)
Lihara~ Good questions!

When I read this, my first thought was, ohh ohh.. that's Liz and the babys really hers! Ta da! All is Fixed! :lol :rollin2
One can hope, right?

Okay, get the blowtorch out and aim it at me now, someone needs to put me out of my misery :lol
Author:  Spicey Tabasco Rookie [ 02/12/02 08:17 ]
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Oh God I read all about this episode at RAMS and all's I can say is this episode sounds completley horrible *Sigh*, and I've lost all hope for the show.

What really makes it bad is that everyone excepts her? I meah did the writers not watch the past two seasons? I mean HELLO SHE KILLED ALEX! Geeze...
Author:  Lihara [ 02/12/02 10:12 ]
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The only bright thing about this is that I heard somewhere
that Alex will be back in the season finale maybe his
supposed death is a mindwarp as for the Max and Tess
thingy I think I' ve heard that something is not what it may seems to be.
Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/13/02 04:29 ]
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I will continue to *believe* that it will not be as it seems with regards to Max & Trash. I still don't believe she is an alien (a part of the royal four) How could she be? She tried to kill them..I think somewhere along the way, it got mixed up and Liz is the rightful owner of that spot in the royal four..for instance, she will be the one saving Max in the next episode...I have also read over on Rams that when the spaceship comes down, that there is only 1 passenger on board- the baby. Not Trash. Hmmmm... The part I don't like about this is the fact that the whole thing with baby seemed "fake" to begin with.. Is it just a set-up? How could a baby survive on Earth? The storyline here sounds ridiculous to me. As far as Alex goes...one of two things..either they are bringing him in as a guest star for the finale because it's the end of the show...or setting up the stage if it's renewed to have him come back for a season.. not sure on this one..but either way I'll be glad to see him if only for a show.;)
Author:  Lihara [ 02/13/02 12:40 ]
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I think it will be very painful for Liz to see Max being protective
towards the tex and spot. But if I'm her I will run away as
fast as I could from Max. This reaction is understandable
after her breakdown in the desert during the episode of Change. I just wish her powers will be back to protect her from Max and please that it might also add that his voice
will be the only one that she can't hear.
Author:  AbsoluteAngel58 [ 02/13/02 12:50 ]
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DAmnit! Just when everything seemed well, JK screws it up with this episode. Gotta remember to buy a Cover for my TV cuz I might end up throwing something at it when this episode comes around!
Author:  rjsasko [ 02/13/02 19:12 ]
Post subject:  Ep 17: "Four Aliens and a Baby" (Spoilers)
Tess is on the ship with SpOT-she is mindwarping the soldiers so they don't see her. Colin Hanks didn't want to leave the show-his character was underutilized and he asked for some time off to make a movie (Orange County), so JK killed him off. He is good friends with Shiri and still says he is thankful to JK for hiring him (don't know whether he actually means that or not), but it is possible that he would be amenable to guest starring in the finale at least. Don't anyone get their hopes up about a satisfying ending, or a happy one for the fans. Remember, Roswell was CANCELLED when JK wrote "DeCrapture" last season and he thought that was a satisfying conclusion to the series for the fans. What an idiot.

Love,

Rick
Author:  Lihara [ 02/13/02 23:40 ]
Post subject:  Ep 17: "Four Aliens and a Baby" (Spoilers)
I've heard from Rams that the season or series finale
will be like a Vanilla sky version. Kind of like the last 2 season is a bad dream cleaning up the slate and start
over again Max will use the granolith to change everything
he will try to make things right for everybody. I don't know
what the writers is thinking about but I will theorized
something big happen between him and Liz that will
cause him to change it.
My guess is that Tess killed Liz and eventually that
was Tess motive for returning to Roswell because she
hated Liz so much not only will she be the cause
the final break up of Max and Liz but she will also
get her revenge on Max by killing the only person that meant everything to him more than life itself. Max will be so distraught and kill Tess he will be so desperate to do anything
to have Liz back that after the funeral of Liz he will find her
journal and the truth of future Max using the granolith to
change the timeline will be revealed and will give him this
idea . He will used the granolith to travel in time or change his
consciousness and everything will be a bad dream but his
love for Liz is the only reality that will cross time ,space and
dimension with him. If this happens Tess will never exist and most importantly Alex is alive and he will just be contented
to be behind the tree if only he could watch Liz from afar
to know that she is alive and well. What do you think?
Author:  DestinySky [ 02/15/02 08:28 ]
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-gag- tess -shudder. JK and hia team of crackheads are out to destory us all. bastards.
Author:  SydneyBristow [ 02/15/02 11:46 ]
Post subject:  Ep 17: "Four Aliens and a Baby" (Spoilers)
Quote:
Quote:
I've heard from Rams that the season or series finale
will be like a Vanilla sky version. Kind of like the last 2 season is a bad dream cleaning up the slate and start
over again Max will use the granolith to change everything
he will try to make things right for everybody. I don't know
what the writers is thinking about but I will theorized
something big happen between him and Liz that will
cause him to change it.
My guess is that Tess killed Liz and eventually that
was Tess motive for returning to Roswell because she
hated Liz so much not only will she be the cause
the final break up of Max and Liz but she will also
get her revenge on Max by killing the only person that meant everything to him more than life itself. Max will be so distraught and kill Tess he will be so desperate to do anything
to have Liz back that after the funeral of Liz he will find her
journal and the truth of future Max using the granolith to
change the timeline will be revealed and will give him this
idea . He will used the granolith to travel in time or change his
consciousness and everything will be a bad dream but his
love for Liz is the only reality that will cross time ,space and
dimension with him. If this happens Tess will never exist and most importantly Alex is alive and he will just be contented
to be behind the tree if only he could watch Liz from afar
to know that she is alive and well. What do you think?


That sounds like a really interesting idea, but we all have to remember that Jason Katims is still in charge of the show. What you wrote is really good. Jason Katims could never write that!
Author:  Lihara [ 02/15/02 13:55 ]
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Thanks but who knows this is Roswell anything goes
those things are still rumors but that is the only constuctive
thing I can think of if we want Alex back from the dead.
Now if UPN will give it another season it
might have a Felecity twist in it since maybe Liz will go
to Harvard and Max might follow her there. The question is
what will happen to the new and improve version of the show since most of the cast who plays the supporting role wants out like Majandra and Brendan or KH I think it will not
affect the show much. My opionion
Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/17/02 04:30 ]
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Lihara~ what a great explanation/theory! How I wish this would be true! Talk about a great season finale! However, I would hold my doubts if the TPTB could actually pull something like that off. I will keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. :lol :lol :lol However, I must admit anything with Tess in it, is not exactly inticing (sp?) me to want to watch. :lol :lol
Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/17/02 13:03 ]
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I have a speculation. I really don't know why I even bother but I'm bored so what the heck.

I'm thinking maybe Tess is mindwarping them. (that's the only way I can stomach this episode)

Reasons:

A: because the baby wasn't royal (Yes I'm in denial)
B: because she didn't deliver Max and them to Kivar which was the original deal.
C: This is her last chance to deliver them to Kivar or he's going to kill her personally.

I mean why else would she come back if the baby was the royal heir. One of the things Kivar could use against Max if it was he kid. Because he could taunt Max with having his kid, but since it isn't real/or Max's Kivar needs Max to come back to Antar so he can kill him and take the throne. The way she's leaving trails of blood to Valenti's house and supposedly can't hold her mind warp is just screaming she wants them to get caught. She thinks there's only one option for them left and that's to zoom back to Antar. But I'm thinking it's going to backfire. Liz will discover the evil b*tch is mindwarping them. The baby is not real/or someone else's. Maybe Liz makes Max see the truth. There's going to be a showdown between Liz and Tess and Tess will finally get what's coming to her.

Of course though with the military on the look for them the gang's still in trouble so there's only one thing they can do which is go back in time. I'm hoping if they do the Dallas thing that they just go back until the End of the World since that's basically when Roswell went all to H*ll. Maybe M/L could go back in time together. Then maybe it can end with M/L cementing like they were originally supposed to that night. (I know I dreaming but I can't help it I'm a Dreamer)

One problem with the above though is JK and Co aren't likely to have a season finale that will actually please the dreamers most likely will get the nightmare version they so think is brilliant. Yeah...Whatever:shake
Author:  Lihara [ 02/17/02 16:17 ]
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sorry to burst your bubble but what I've heard from RAMS
is that Sex was real the baby was real whose was it cause if
it was Max the baby should be on Antar and Kivar will protect it. Because it is a ligetimate Zan's heir.

I think the dallasing of Roswell can be safely given a chance
in the final episode cause they established already that they can travel back in time and can manipulate the timeline it will do much better than what happen to Dallas. And maybe we could give Katim a chance to redeem himself with those past mistake that he does during Season 1 and Season2 and hopefully have a more understandable S4.
Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/17/02 17:07 ]
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The problem here is, a ways back Rams had detailed spoilers that Kyle was really the father of the baby not Max. I'm guessing this has been changed now. Although Rams is usually about 95% on target with spoilers, it CAN be changed at times.. (ie. the pot changed to alcohol) Point being, they can still change what is floating around... it could end up being Kyles. Then again, what I would like to see, is her just mindwarping everyone to BELIEVE that there is a baby (but in truth there isn't one- because it was all a big mind warp-and it just seemed so fake last year-like Tess was making it up) Second problem is, Rick's right, there are just one to many plot holes for even the Dallas Dream to work (which I'm not that thrilled about to begin with- because it seems like the cheap way out.) After all these complicated story lines I've had to sit through, I want one d@mn compelling ending, not just boom wake up it was a dream. That just sucks. So being the dreamer I am, I will believe some of those spoilers, but I will trust them with a grain of salt until it actually airs, in which case if it turns out terrible, I will never again watch a show from JK and Co. Lesson Learned. ;)
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