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Author:  Spicey Tabasco Rookie [ 02/12/02 08:25 ]
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Sounds intresting I know I'll be watching. I'll be sure to post my review tomarrow ;) bye bye for now have fun watching everyone.

Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/12/02 19:14 ]
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OMG! Okay, here's my 2nd post.. I can't believe I just typed all of that and then hit the d@mn delete key :mad :mad

First, I really liked it. It wasn't that bad. I'm still a little confused on Liz's "special" powers.. they only show the phone melting (as if that girl didn't notice :rolleyes ).. was it because she was talking to Max? Or because her true feelings started to surface about Max.. and how come they were visible when she was talking to Kyle last week?
As far as the whole Max saving Valenti and Max dying.. it wasn't bad...a little freaky, but entertaining as well. ;) I didn't quite understand how it took Michael & Isabel so long to find them (like hello, she couldn't use her powers to see where Max or Valenti were?) Lastly, the stupidest part was in the beginning when they were searching through Michaels stuff & whatnot... can anyone say E.T.? LMAO! :lol :rollin2

Okay, well I must go take my Nyquil (flu) and get a good nites rest (yeah right) Maybe I will be a little more coherent in the morning. ;)

Author:  rjsasko [ 02/13/02 04:42 ]
Post subject:  Panacea

I am not quite sure what to say about this one? I guess it is going to depend upon how they wrap it up in the next part. Lots of Plotholes, lots of Chads, nothing really overtly heinous. Very last scene is a bit of a muddle. All of the performances, save Liz and Kyle, seemed phoned in. You know, season flee in a nutshell: SNAFU. "Situation Normal, All F***ed Up. Well, C'est La Vie.

Positives:

Liz kept her backbone-although she waffled while on the phone with Max, she managed to remain Liz Parker rather than Liz Doormat. Always a BIG PLUS. And her roommate says: "Can't believe you are with him" and "Once a cheater, always a cheater. "It is that simple" Liz shouts: "I am free on my own". Ya think?! Gee, explain again to me why we had eleven episodes of Crapola before these last two eppies in season flee? It took the "writers" a YEAR to figure out what the majority of the fans KNEW instinctively from day one? With such perceptive qualities like that they would be PERFECT asking "would you like fries with that". Can't quite understand the whole "rebel Liz" bit. I thought she got away to get her life back under control. Oops, there is that common sense again. Me bad. Loved the Dean who couldn't smell the difference between a cigarette and candle smoke. She must light up JK's crack pipe and think it is actually North Sea Tobacco burning. She must think the girls in the dorm burn incense because they are all Buddhists. (Kyle, we need you.) "Excuse me girls, but what is that you have in that little plastic bag?" "Oregano". "I love Italian too! We'll have to swap recipes".

Maria walked away from Mega-Streisand (South Park) record producer in New York. I would love to know which record company is just dying to bring back Disco. Maria "sings her own stuff"? I didn't know she wrote "In The Air Tonight". (Blind Date) Please! And away from Billy the homeless talentless guitar idiot with the Don Johnson complex. Wonder where that underage kid's PARENTS are? I wonder if his brother's name is John Walker? (And just HOW did Maria know WHICH street corner he would be panhandling on in a city of 10 million people?) Thank GOD that whatever happens, this means the END of that stupid plotline! Hurrah! And TATB even remembered that Maria's "singing career" consisted of Karaoke at the Pizza Pan (Blind Date). And just WHY couldn't they remember that BEFORE this heinously stupid plotline started?

More good Liz/Maria interaction. That's two eppies in a row! WOW! The "writers" must have been having a bad two weeks in the Betty Ford Clinic. And they changed the pot smoking to alcohol instead. Maybe the fans screaming for two months was actually heard by one of those braindead moronic "writers"? Although it makes no sense when Liz is trying to get her life back on track so she can go to Harvard to put everything in jeopardy on her first day by whipping out the hip flask, all I can say is "You GO girl! Bottoms Up! Maker's Mark all around!" She must be watching her favorite show go down the toilet too. We understand dear. Sometimes alcohol is the right choice. Of course the whole going to Harvard plotline is assinine in and of itself at this point after her grades went into the toilet and considering it is February and she blew her interview. But when has common sense ever intruded on a stupid plotline in Roswell?

And Max tells Kyle that if he, Michael, and Isabel are not able to rescue his dad, to go to Hanson and tell him anything, tell them they are aliens. That is TWO WEEKS IN A ROW that Max actually acted like Max and put other people's welfare ahead of his own. Must have been a Hell of a Detox Ward at the Betty Ford Clinic. Since they got the "writers" in there, maybe there is still room for the hair/make-up/wardrobe department staffers? Couldn't hurt. Didn't quite get the Valenti reaction to wearing a uniform again? Must be horrendous not singing with a band called the "Kit Shickers", crooning Rock-A-Billy ballads for pocket change in local dives. What a come down. At least maybe THAT heinous plotline may be over. Now if they were only smart enough never to have started that idiocy...

Michael actually cried when Monk was murdered. That boy ain't a total loss yet. Maybe he will even remember that Alex was his friend and Isabel was dating Alex and he was murdered by Tess? Nawwww! Too much.

Very little Isaboob. Always a PLUS!

Almost no Jesse. Always a PLUS!

Negatives:

Not enough Kyle.

Any Isaboob and Jesse is too much.

A mega-bucks corporation hiring a "D" student/non-high school graduate to work security. Sure. And THAT didn't raise questions with the Podsters? I could barely stomache "Michael and the Heinously Stupid Snapple Caper" and paid almost no attention to it, but wasn't he FIRED in that episode? Let me get this straight-Meta-Chem hired Michael because they thought he was an ALIEN ON EARTH WHO COULD HEAL and they DESPERATELY NEEDED HIM but they fired him over some Snapple? I could be mistaken about this because I was only watching little snippets of that crap in between "Smallville", but PLEASE!

And Michael CAN HEAL! He healed River Dog. (Into the Woods). So why would he run around with a Band-Aid? And why would he just leave his blood lying around to be found? (Blood Brother) Stupid. And when did Michael become such a sports fan? Ravens? He thinks human sports are stupid waste of time. (Toy House) Although it is undeniably true that the Podsters are a special kind of stupid, but for Michael not to notice that none of the glass from the broken window was on the floor INSIDE the building, and that the shards were bent OUTWARDS, is beyond their usual stupidity. And to not have alarm bells ringing in his head when he is the ONLY witness in a murder investigation and the police DO NOT QUESTION HIM? Sure. And the power goes off in a building full of delicate chemicals and biological compounds and there is no battery or generator back-up so the experiments get ruined, irreplaceable samples get ruined, and the cameras catch nothing. Sure. But then anyone who is dirt poor, working two jobs, and going to high school, who spends a buck a bottle on Snapple is a moron. Besides, Aliens like SWEET and SPICY. Kool-Aid is 10 cents a packet and sugar is 5 pounds for a buck. No wonder they got killed back on Antar. They were too stupid to live. What's next? Him drinking Evian? FYI Evian was started by a couple of guys who knew that people were so stupid they would pay a buck a bottle for tap water with a foreign sounding name. "Evian" is NAIVE spelled backwards...

And Meta-Chem has had Liz's waitress uniform from the shooting for TWO YEARS! I guess it went from Sheriff Valenti to FBI Agent Stevens to the FBI Evidence Lab to the FBI Vault to Meta-Chem? Sure. Or maybe Nesedo disobeyed a direct order to destroy the Special Unit's evidence on them and called up Meta Chem? Gee, but that would be a plothole for he was forced to obey the King's orders (The Adventures of Carrot Top in the Big City)(Sorry, season flee episodes tend to be so heinous that I block out what their actual titles were. Where Max went to L.A. and met Kal.) And they managed to get a hold of the uniform and all of those other goodies but never interviewed the TWO WITNESSES who saw the initial Crashdown incident in the first place? You remember? Larry and Jennifer? Who shouted to everyone that MAX went up to Liz and did something to her? (The Pilot)(The Convention)

3AM shift change? Let's see: 3AM to 11AM, 11AM to 7PM, 7PM to 3AM. No wonder they had to hire underage high school dropouts to run Security, no normal people work shifts like that.

And the police have a "magic spray" that highlights ONLY the set of bootprints they want to find, AFTER the floor has been washed and waxed. Amazing how it could differentiate between all of the staffers at Meta-Chem who all get their uniforms and work boots from the same place-the RED WING truck that visits the plant. What will they think of next? Ain't science amazing? FYI-the ONLY way they would be able to do something like that is if the offender walked through blood and tracked it on the floor. Then using a special chemical (Phenerol or something like that) and a blacklight, the forensic team could track them. Now you know. Wish they did.

Max has a shield that deflects bullets (To Serve and Protect). No flashes from Valenti when he had to make a connection to heal that severe of a wound (The Pilot). Notice how Max never mentioned that he couldn't heal the geezer, because he tried BEFORE (Leaving Normal) and it didn't work? Oops! That whole body transference scene was idiotic. The Max ash, or "Mash", didn't jibe with how Necedo disintegrated when he died. (Ask Not) Although I have never seen season flee Max looking better than after he died. Good riddance. Thank GOD the leather jacket died with you! And I guess Mrs. Geezer has the Viagra ready for grandpa.

I think the Podsters said something about calling Kal to help? I think I blocked that one out because it was so lame. Doesn't Kal hate them all? If he doesn't he sure as Hell should. I know most of the fans do any more.

It is my fondest hope that JK and his merry band of idiots do not try the body transference crapola to in effect "revirginize" Max. I have this sinking feeling that TATB think that since the body that went "where every man has gone before", i.e. Trash, is now gone, that they can have Max innocent again thereby removing all impediments to Dreamers, and still have the Demon Spawn, SpOT. Please!

Can't wait to see how Jesse breaks through the Medeco lock in the front door of Meta-Chem. Maybe he'll call a locksmith? Oops! They don't have keys or even blanks to make keys for those-Only the Medeco company has them. Maybe Jesse is carrying a battery operated hammer drill with a carbide bit in his pocket? On Roswell in seasons spew and flee, stranger (read lamer) things have happened.

All my love,

Rick

P.S. Read those eppy #17 spoilers yet? Make an appointment with your bartender-it'll help. Well, it couldn't hurt.

Author:  AbsoluteAngel58 [ 02/13/02 12:54 ]
Post subject:  Panacea

The episode was pretty good. I can't believe Max was killed at the end and aw man was his form as some old person gross or what?!

WHat pissed me off during that hour though was the promos for the two shows airing in Roswell's timeslow in March!

Author:  Laura [ 02/13/02 13:00 ]
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Rick, you sure are research boy. They should have hired you to prevent ployholes.

I didn't even have the energy to point out all the things that bothered me. Let's just say I was disappointed after the promise of last week.

Author:  Spicey Tabasco Rookie [ 02/13/02 15:48 ]
Post subject:  Panacea

I have to admitt I liked it. I really did, there was some things that where kinda stupid.. like first off the old dude was dieing of old age...geeze everyone dies lady get a life! Anywho the special affects for Max "Aging" was pretty cool so I thought, and I hate to admit it but I loved watching Max die :lol lol my family thinks I'm insane but I thought it was awesome. Humm lets see I feel sooooo sorry for Mikey first his kinda girlfriend leaves him then his friend dies and now his "brother"? Lets see what else umm... Oh ya about the promos for as if and um... the random years I think it was... I was totally pissed off when the kept showing them over and over and over agian. I'm sure not watching them and they look kinda stupid lol.

Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/14/02 06:32 ]
Post subject:  Panacea

Wow Rick! You weren't kidding when you said you were undecided. I keep trying to figure out which is longer the positives or negatives. :lol I would also guess you are leaning more towards liking it, only because you see what the crap is coming up for the end of the season.
One other thing that really bothered me about this episode was when Liz kept apologizing to Max for what she said/felt. *Uggghh* Why should she? She has every right to feel that way. I'm just as upset at Max for NOT apologizing to her yet. He's like if your feeling better why not come home now? He doesn't even recognize that she doesn't trust him, and is hurting. WTF? Okay, I am still really mad at him. *grrrrr* :lol

Author:  MeowthTRAM369 [ 02/14/02 15:38 ]
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I thought it was a pretty good episode...I'm glad there's not a new episode next week because I'll be away on vacation :D I think that Max dying was an...interesting plot twist, if you want to call it that. I'm really glad Maria told that stupid record-label woman off..she was such a bitch. I hate people who destroy music like that..I'm regaining some respect for Maria now...although poor Michael..anyways..I'm a bit confused..is Roswell moving to a different time slot? Or are they just premiring that As If, or whatever show it was...in that time slot for the time? I like the time slot it is now..although I liked it a bit more on Monday because it made Monday more bearable. Overall, the episode was nice, although I was surprised Liz didn't caught..I don't know, at times it seems like Max loves Liz way more than Liz loves Max..although I guess I can understand her confusin.

Author:  bunniefuu [ 02/16/02 19:20 ]
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Just though I would comment on something here, because I've just realized this for one and two it surprises me...It is enlightening to see some liked it, some didn't like it, and some are in between.. but what is so stunning is that everyone voiced their opposing views and no attacks came from it. Gee, I actually think that is the first time I have EVER seen that done on a thread anywhere before..:lol So, GO FD! ;)

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